I'm not sure how it is for the LX-F, but for the MS1 I had two options for both size/offset. They both came in the Super Low disk for the most lip, and then the Normal disk.
I went with the Super Low disk on both for the most lip. That's why I'm kinda worried. I'm not sure if I'm going to have trouble with caliper clearance in front or not.
They should be here in about 12 hours, so I'll try to get pictures up somewhere. BUT it will just be of the wheels themselves.
I had planned to use some spacers with some 18's I have laying around to estimate how much I need to roll my fenders, but I didn't end up getting spacers yet. And because of the timing with my vacation and the wheels getting here I haven't done anything to the fenders yet. So I won't actually have the wheels on until I can get that done. I'm hoping to have it done by the weekend though. Plus I figured it would be easier to just roll them to fit the wheels, rather than guessing at how much to roll and everything
oh definitely wait till you get your wheels before rolling your fenders lol most likely you won't need a pull and just a flat roll but better safe than sorry ..man if i was in your position i would just call in sick ..yah not really trying to have you lose your job so im just saying hypothetically in a much better job market
They should be here in about 12 hours, so I'll try to get pictures up somewhere. BUT it will just be of the wheels themselves.
I had planned to use some spacers with some 18's I have laying around to estimate how much I need to roll my fenders, but I didn't end up getting spacers yet. And because of the timing with my vacation and the wheels getting here I haven't done anything to the fenders yet. So I won't actually have the wheels on until I can get that done. I'm hoping to have it done by the weekend though. Plus I figured it would be easier to just roll them to fit the wheels, rather than guessing at how much to roll and everything.
Well, lets think of it this way:
My setup is at 81.65 mm from the hub with 18x9.5+39 (245/40/18)
Your setup is at 77.3 mm from the hub with 18x9+37 (235/40/18)
A. My tires are too big (25.7" diameter = too big for slammed) so I got new 245/35/18 (24.7" diameter)
B. I had to roll my fender lips completely flat and flare the fenders about 8-10mm in order to gain 2-3mm of clearance. Must go LOWER
C. I still rub after completely cleaning up my fenders, getting rid of all visible rubs, etc.
So your setup is 4mm off from mine.... First off, I would roll the fenders flat (because you'll have/want to for SURE). Secondly, you might have to flare the fenders a few mm at most. If you get a 5mm spacer for the rear, then flare the fenders about 10mm out to create room for your tires to not rub.
Naturally, your tires/wheels will camber in, so being slammed with 2mm of clearance is no biggie in most cases
Definately, I'm just waiting to see what size to get
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Originally Posted by jon4862
oh definitely wait till you get your wheels before rolling your fenders lol most likely you won't need a pull and just a flat roll but better safe than sorry ..man if i was in your position i would just call in sick ..yah not really trying to have you lose your job so im just saying hypothetically in a much better job market
Shoot I don't have a job right now! But my friends with experience rolling fenders do, and it's also one of their birthdays tomorrow, so I have to work along with their schedules too
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Originally Posted by twestman
Well, lets think of it this way:
My setup is at 81.65 mm from the hub with 18x9.5+39 (245/40/18)
Your setup is at 77.3 mm from the hub with 18x9+37 (235/40/18)
A. My tires are too big (25.7" diameter = too big for slammed) so I got new 245/35/18 (24.7" diameter)
B. I had to roll my fender lips completely flat and flare the fenders about 15mm in order to gain 2-3mm of clearance to go LOWER
C. I still rub after completely cleaning up my fenders, getting rid of all visible rubs, etc.
So your setup is 4mm off from mine.... First off, I would roll the fenders flat (because you'll have/want to for SURE). Secondly, you might have to flare the fenders a few mm at most. If you get a 5mm spacer for the rear, then flare the fenders about 10mm out to create room for your tires to not rub.
Naturally, your tires/wheels will camber in, so being slammed with 2mm of clearance is no biggie in most cases
I definately think your way of measuring and planning everything worked great, but it's already too late so I might as well roll to fit. I thought about doing everything before hand, but I was worried about rolling to far and having to push the wheels even farther out.
My day is already planned out for tomorrow - Waking up, cleaning interior, washing car, lunch, getting wheels, test fit, get tires mounted, go show friends, arrange time to roll fenders, done
I could probably roll around with the front wheels on, but that would be ghetto and I'd probably rub. If I do get the tires mounted though I'll atleast has some pictures of the fronts. I doubt (hope) I can't lower the rear with the wheel on yet
My setup is at 81.65 mm from the hub with 18x9.5+39 (245/40/18)
Your setup is at 77.3 mm from the hub with 18x9+37 (235/40/18)
A. My tires are too big (25.7" diameter = too big for slammed) so I got new 245/35/18 (24.7" diameter)
B. I had to roll my fender lips completely flat and flare the fenders about 15mm in order to gain 2-3mm of clearance to go LOWER
C. I still rub after completely cleaning up my fenders, getting rid of all visible rubs, etc.
So your setup is 4mm off from mine.... First off, I would roll the fenders flat (because you'll have/want to for SURE). Secondly, you might have to flare the fenders a few mm at most. If you get a 5mm spacer for the rear, then flare the fenders about 10mm out to create room for your tires to not rub.
Naturally, your tires/wheels will camber in, so being slammed with 2mm of clearance is no biggie in most cases
all these numbers are throwing me off when im trying to read this half asleep lol i gotta try understanding it tomorrow..
but you seem to know the details and are very precise on the wheel fitment. what kind of advice would you give me? since im about to roll/pull my fenders some more. here are some factors...
1. im running 18x9 +35 with 235/40/18
2. my rear fenders are slightly rolled and pulled (without any kind of measurement) it was done by my friend that claim "i know what im doing" but my paint end up cracking and the roll and pull was not even on both sides.
3. im barrowing a roller and heat gun to re-do my fenders myself. im hoping someone locally thats familiar with the process would come by and help...
4. i will run the 5mm spacers in the rear after all is said and done (should be running Stance coilovers by then)
Definately, I'm just waiting to see what size to get
Shoot I don't have a job right now! But my friends with experience rolling fenders do, and it's also one of their birthdays tomorrow, so I have to work along with their schedules too
I definately think your way of measuring and planning everything worked great, but it's already too late so I might as well roll to fit. I thought about doing everything before hand, but I was worried about rolling to far and having to push the wheels even farther out.
My day is already planned out for tomorrow - Waking up, cleaning interior, washing car, lunch, getting wheels, test fit, get tires mounted, go show friends, arrange time to roll fenders, done
I could probably roll around with the front wheels on, but that would be ghetto and I'd probably rub. If I do get the tires mounted though I'll atleast has some pictures of the fronts. I doubt (hope) I can't lower the rear with the wheel on yet
thats funny i got my day planned out like that too lol
waking up, get my stocks to the tire shop and fix the flat, replace the SSR with the stocks to get ready for paint shop the next day, bring my SSR's to the rim shop and get a quote, pick up my fenders from one shop and get everything together (FINALLY) for the paint job for thursday... whew!
all these numbers are throwing me off when im trying to read this half asleep lol i gotta try understanding it tomorrow..
but you seem to know the details and are very precise on the wheel fitment. what kind of advice would you give me? since im about to roll/pull my fenders some more. here are some factors...
1. im running 18x9 +35 with 235/40/18
2. my rear fenders are slightly rolled and pulled (without any kind of measurement) it was done by my friend that claim "i know what im doing" but my paint end up cracking and the roll and pull was not even on both sides.
3. im barrowing a roller and heat gun to re-do my fenders myself. im hoping someone locally thats familiar with the process would come by and help...
4. i will run the 5mm spacers in the rear after all is said and done (should be running Stance coilovers by then)
go very slowly, and make sure you take your time heating up the paint and re-heating while rolling.. do it in sections not in passes.
if you plan on living your life going to places that you want to go without being hassled by speedbumps, entrance ramps, and bad roads dont get a bodykit with your height goal.
btw, i dont get how your fender can be "slightly" rolled and "pulled" at the same time... pulling is an effect after rolling your fender flat.
all these numbers are throwing me off when im trying to read this half asleep lol i gotta try understanding it tomorrow..
but you seem to know the details and are very precise on the wheel fitment. what kind of advice would you give me? since im about to roll/pull my fenders some more. here are some factors...
1. im running 18x9 +35 with 235/40/18
2. my rear fenders are slightly rolled and pulled (without any kind of measurement) it was done by my friend that claim "i know what im doing" but my paint end up cracking and the roll and pull was not even on both sides.
3. im barrowing a roller and heat gun to re-do my fenders myself. im hoping someone locally thats familiar with the process would come by and help...
4. i will run the 5mm spacers in the rear after all is said and done (should be running Stance coilovers by then)
all these numbers are throwing me off when im trying to read this half asleep lol i gotta try understanding it tomorrow..
but you seem to know the details and are very precise on the wheel fitment. what kind of advice would you give me? since im about to roll/pull my fenders some more. here are some factors...
1. im running 18x9 +35 with 235/40/18
2. my rear fenders are slightly rolled and pulled (without any kind of measurement) it was done by my friend that claim "i know what im doing" but my paint end up cracking and the roll and pull was not even on both sides.
3. im barrowing a roller and heat gun to re-do my fenders myself. im hoping someone locally thats familiar with the process would come by and help...
4. i will run the 5mm spacers in the rear after all is said and done (should be running Stance coilovers by then)
Okay well you're currently at 79.3mm from the hub and the limit with a fully rolled fender and unstretched tire is about 75mm. You're stretching a 235/40, so you're okay there. With a 10mm spacer, you'll be at 89.3mm from the hub (I'm at 81.35 with a 245/40 18x9.5+39). So in order to fit the wheels, after rolling/pulling, I would roll your fender lips COMPLETELY FLAT, then flare the rears about 15mm and you'll be all set to go. Slam it down, and let the natural unadjusted camber of the rear do the job for you
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Originally Posted by xagenesis
go very slowly, and make sure you take your time heating up the paint and re-heating while rolling.. do it in sections not in passes.
if you plan on living your life going to places that you want to go without being hassled by speedbumps, entrance ramps, and bad roads dont get a bodykit with your height goal.
btw, i dont get how your fender can be "slightly" rolled and "pulled" at the same time... pulling is an effect after rolling your fender flat.
Couldn't have said it better myself!
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Originally Posted by jon4862
how do you have a slight roll and pull at the same time? lol ..usually you roll your fenders flat then pull them to get more clearance if you need it
anyways you're running 18x9 +35 so:
9x25.4 / 2 -35 = 76.3 so youre sticking out
(crap i accidently pressed enter im still working on the calculations hold on! )
If someone doesn't know what they're doing with a roll/pull, i'm sure they could mess it up by rolling/pulling slightly. LOL
twestman: just to verify the 68mm fender limit is without a shave/roll so you will gain like 8mm with a shave/roll yes? making the fender limit 76mm?
Yes you're correct. That's also with a flush tire that's not stretched. With a 225/40 on a 9.5 you'd gain about 10-15mm of clearance (to an extent).
With shave/roll the fender limit is at 76mm, but with a roll it will be closer to 75mm since there is extra material smashed together rather than cut off.
Okay guys:
A super easy way to figure out where you should flare your fenders to is to mount the spacers, mount the wheel ONLY (no tire), and then put a tall wood block under the control arm (if on hydraulic lift, use a stand), then lower the car and the control arm will be pushed up into the wheel well. Go until the wheel is about an inch away from touching the fender (or the ride height you'd like to be at), measure the difference between the wheel lip and the fender lip. This is about how far you should flare your fenders out (I'd go a few millimeters further, as this is where the tire will be). Does this mumbo-jumbo make sense?
none of the wheels or colors in this thread are even remotly rare stop sayin they are you can go to discount tire and get sbc rpf1.s
And the LX-F? You can special order SBC RPF1's from discount tire, yes. That was never in question. It is the SSR LX-F's that are rare and hard to find.
Anything else you'd like to contribute to this thread other than negativity?
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