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Old 06-08-2009, 12:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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SSR Vienna LX-F vs Enkei RPF1

i am torn between the two...

i currently own the SSR Vienna LX-F wheels on my TCM and ive gotten many compliments on this combo. one down fall is that i dont find these wheels aggressive enough (18x8 +32, 18x9+35). problem solver? - spacers. OR........

these RPF1s someone selling locally. very aggressive (18x8.5 +30, 18x9.5 +15) and theyre chrome finished which i rarely see.

so im debating between the two.. my SSR's are rare and favored by many / but not aggressive enough; the RPF1's are light and aggressive / but might require too much work to make it fit. so i need some of your help.

couple factors you might wanna consider
- im using my original tires 225 front and 235 rear.
- im still looking for some coilovers as im running springs only right now.
- the rear is slightly rolled, and the front is vertex fenders.
- i have two 5mm spacers on the way...

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wow +15 in the rear is going to be hard to do. i would think fender flares are in your future

what look are you going for? those Enkeis are hot but theyre more of race type wheel. are you into luxury or race? i dont think those are the type of wheel you would run with a stretched tire

personally i would go with another option (C). go with a different luxury style wheel with lip and go aggressive.
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those are rare sbc color rpf1's and it is a pricey option to get that finish on the wheels so basically those are fucking hawt!! CONCAVE RPF1'S FTMFW!!!! ..but the downside is trying to fit those things in the rear which will be a pita unless, like baadhabit said, getting flares or a massive pull

he also makes a valid point about going "racey" or a clean luxury look and those rpf1's will definitely give the "racey" look with stretched tires, poke, and camber, and not to say, a totally different look compared to how it looks right now

so in the end you could probably used those 5mm spacers for +25 effective offset for the fronts paired with the vertex fenders and add some camber (phillyb runs an 18x8.5 +25 for his fronts with vertex fenders???) but for the rears it is a totally different story as for fitment (yay the IS community is going into the teens on offsets!! :D) youre gonna have to get a pull like phillyb's as he is running 18x9.5 +20..5mm more sunk in than yours + he's running 255/35 and youre gonna be running a 235/40 so you should be good if you get a pull like his though which is not an easy thing to say at all! lol

coilovers would definitely help A LOT with this setup because having a stiffer ride will allow less spring travel which means less rubbing i'd say look into stances IMO but i really really like those wheels and i personally would choose the rpf1's ..unless you find those TE37's in the pictures below (you'd be the only person on my.is in the teens in offsets besides illroller? but he doesn't have his car anymore so you'd be the only one!)

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here's a 235/40 in a 9.5 wheel ..now find some TE's! hahaha! (18x9.5 +22)
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With fender mods in the rear. I rub on a min. Level. The issue isnt the fender clearance as well more the tire clearance on the back section as the Caster will shift towards the rear when the car is lowered. As would state on the VW's you see the caster shift forward.

The fenders in the rear were rolled and pulled about 15-20mm The tires are 255. depending on the tire brand and "sidewall" it will tend to rub more.

The fronts are a 215/40 no rubbing issues at all.

It was a hit or miss and we happend to make it work. The rear bumper needed to be worked and have a fiberglass made to fit the pull of the fender. As well the fronts have been reinforced with multiple layers of fiberglass.

So rubbing is at a min. in the rear yet its rubbing metal. I would rather rub metal then rub a fiberglass widebody flare.
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I vote for the SSR's...

The Enkei's are cool rims... but I find getting them to look good is very specific on the fitment you chose. If you don't get it exactly right... it doesn't look good. Your SSR's already look really good.
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wow +15 in the rear is going to be hard to do. i would think fender flares are in your future

what look are you going for? those Enkeis are hot but theyre more of race type wheel. are you into luxury or race? i dont think those are the type of wheel you would run with a stretched tire

personally i would go with another option (C). go with a different luxury style wheel with lip and go aggressive.
personally, i wouldnt go too "racey" unless i really track my car or run boost to back up the look. and currently i have mostly the basic bolt-ons done but not enough to claim that "i race"...

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those are rare sbc color rpf1's and it is a pricey option to get that finish on the wheels so basically those are fucking hawt!! CONCAVE RPF1'S FTMFW!!!! ..but the downside is trying to fit those things in the rear which will be a pita unless, like baadhabit said, getting flares or a massive pull

he also makes a valid point about going "racey" or a clean luxury look and those rpf1's will definitely give the "racey" look with stretched tires, poke, and camber, and not to say, a totally different look compared to how it looks right now

so in the end you could probably used those 5mm spacers for +25 effective offset for the fronts paired with the vertex fenders and add some camber (phillyb runs an 18x8.5 +25 for his fronts with vertex fenders???) but for the rears it is a totally different story as for fitment (yay the IS community is going into the teens on offsets!! :D) youre gonna have to get a pull like phillyb's as he is running 18x9.5 +20..5mm more sunk in than yours + he's running 255/35 and youre gonna be running a 235/40 so you should be good if you get a pull like his though which is not an easy thing to say at all! lol

coilovers would definitely help A LOT with this setup because having a stiffer ride will allow less spring travel which means less rubbing i'd say look into stances IMO but i really really like those wheels and i personally would choose the rpf1's ..unless you find those TE37's in the pictures below (you'd be the only person on my.is in the teens in offsets besides illroller? but he doesn't have his car anymore so you'd be the only one!)

here's some random pics from phillyb's "+20 offsets" thread:

18x8.5 +25 -- 215/40/18
18x9.5 +20 -- 255/35/18
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here's a 235/40 in a 9.5 wheel ..now find some TE's! hahaha! (18x9.5 +22)
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hope this helped!
i know.. philly's pull is gonna be one tough job to copy. plus i would need a good fender roller to trust myself from getting that done. and honestly, i dunno if its that fun driving that thing "slightly rubbing" everywhere i go. its just a pain just for that crazy look.

and you said illroller sold his car?! wtf.


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I vote for the SSR's...

The Enkei's are cool rims... but I find getting them to look good is very specific on the fitment you chose. If you don't get it exactly right... it doesn't look good. Your SSR's already look really good.
2 to 1 now.. thanks for your compliment!

would the 5mm spacer not make up for the lack of aggressiveness on my SSR's?
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Run the 5mm spacer on the front and run a 10 or 15mm in the back and you'll be very aggressive. I'd vote for the RPF1's, but a +15 offset on a 9.5 is going to be pretty difficult to fit without massive rubbing and a ton of work with the fenders (unless you use flares).

I vote for the SSR's. Plus, it seems like lately everyone is talking about the RPF1's.... Maybe it's just me? They're great wheels, but the LX-F is so much more rare and that chrome lip is... Mesmerizing. lol
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I'm going to change what I've told people.

Don't buy RPF1's because I have them and I don't want you to have them..

But seriously a +15 on a 9.5 isn't really worth it in my book, my 9.5 is +38 and I think it looks great.
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i know.. philly's pull is gonna be one tough job to copy. plus i would need a good fender roller to trust myself from getting that done. and honestly, i dunno if its that fun driving that thing "slightly rubbing" everywhere i go. its just a pain just for that crazy look.

and you said illroller sold his car?! wtf.
i hear you man...getting a job like that done is quite a feat to overcome, and at the least, intimidating lol ..gots to pay to play

and yes illroller drives an sc now ..that's why he's not on here any more ..i've seen a picture of it on here somewhere but i have no idea where i saw it ..as expected the car looks as torn up as his cwest front looked lol

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2 to 1 now.. thanks for your compliment!

would the 5mm spacer not make up for the lack of aggressiveness on my SSR's?
i'd say 8-10mm spacer for the rears and 5mm for the front...you gotta add some more poke and camber to have it aggressive with your current setup

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I'm going to change what I've told people.

Don't buy RPF1's because I have them and I don't want you to have them..

But seriously a +15 on a 9.5 isn't really worth it in my book, my 9.5 is +38 and I think it looks great.
personally i would recommend probably going 18x9.5 +38 all around too because it has the concavity and fitment isn't going to be too difficult at least for the rears anyways ..too bad the enkei manufacturer are back ordered on 9 and 9.5 rpf1's according to this vendor on evolutionm.net anyways: but kaptain didn't you get them from discount tire pretty readily?

edit: oh wait a 9.5 +38 won't fit on the front (a-arm) so you'll still need that 5mm spacer making it +33 effective offset ..idk how easily that would fit under a vertex fender so disregard my comment about 9.5 +38 all around lol but remember those TE's are 9.5 +22

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Currently we are out of stock of the 18x9's and 18x9.5's. Also, Enkei is extremely back ordered in those sizes too. We are going to do our best to get a couple sets of those in.

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Discount tire direct is a forum sponsor and they didn't have them in stock but they got them ordered and to my door in around a week...pretty awesome if you ask me.

also just found a slight rub when taking a sharp turn and hitting a dip at the same time with my 18x8 +35 with 225/40/18 kdw's with my rpf1s.

A +32 with an 18x8 will need a stretched tire (215) or at least one without a square shoulder.
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Discount tire direct is a forum sponsor and they didn't have them in stock but they got them ordered and to my door in around a week...pretty awesome if you ask me.

also just found a slight rub when taking a sharp turn and hitting a dip at the same time with my 18x8 +35 with 225/40/18 kdw's with my rpf1s.

A +32 with an 18x8 will need a stretched tire (215) or at least one without a square shoulder.
Yeah... And you're on Pro-Kit springs! lol go lower and that slight rub will turn into a BIG rub.
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Discount tire direct is a forum sponsor and they didn't have them in stock but they got them ordered and to my door in around a week...pretty awesome if you ask me.

also just found a slight rub when taking a sharp turn and hitting a dip at the same time with my 18x8 +35 with 225/40/18 kdw's with my rpf1s.

A +32 with an 18x8 will need a stretched tire (215) or at least one without a square shoulder.
in a week WOW! ..now i gotta find out if what that vendor was saying is viable

i was just suggesting he get 18x9.5 +38 all around because he has vertex fenders for his car but since 9.5 +38 won't fit in the front because of a-arm fitment issues he needs a 5mm spacer making it +33 ..do you guys think he'll rub even with vertex fenders? i have no idea as far as fitment with new fenders lol how much more clearance do they allow?
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Yeah... And you're on Pro-Kit springs! lol go lower and that slight rub will turn into a BIG rub.
yea, it took quite a while to hit the right bump / dip to make it rub. I mainly think its the square shoulder of the KDW that made it rub, with a more curved shoulder it would've just cleared the fender.

Also to note, I was at Sound Performance in Chicago a few weeks back and saw the black chrome (gunmetal maybe?) RPF1's on a 240sx and they looked incredible..maybe when its time to powder coat my wheels I'll go a similar route.

edit: these looked great.

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yea, it took quite a while to hit the right bump / dip to make it rub. I mainly think its the square shoulder of the KDW that made it rub, with a more curved shoulder it would've just cleared the fender.

Also to note, I was at Sound Performance in Chicago a few weeks back and saw the black chrome (gunmetal maybe?) RPF1's on a 240sx and they looked incredible..maybe when its time to powder coat my wheels I'll go a similar route.

edit: these looked great.

yah that's the sbc color i was talking about ..that's the color wheels the op's rpf1's are (the lighting's kinda weird in his picture and so they look less "black chromish") and they do look incredible
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ok so i just verified with travis at discounttire that the rpf1's are on backorder however they do have one set left on backorder and they could get them to you by the 1st of july if you order them soon (he told me today) or else you're gonna have to wait a few more months for the next batch ..just letting you know thundercloud you should pm him for further details
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rpf1's are played out imo
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