Has any one fitted these Elbrus wheels?

[BeansIS]

They look amazing besides the "Elbrus: logo on the spoke. They are 18x8 +40 offset and resemble OEM wheels greatly. I have been thinking about buying them but want to see what they look like first!

Elbrus I02



Wheels for 2002 Lexus IS300

Post up pls!

[LO 21]

pretty cool! bigger version of our stockies

[BeansIS]

Def! I just went from 18x8 to stockers and it feels like poop, but I love the look. This may be the answer.

[Avernier]

it would be really simple to machine the logo off of the spoke for an even more oem look. your car would probably be faster if you just had the stock wheels widened and ran a spacer though.

[BeansIS]

I'm thinking about getting them and having a professional get rid of the logos, I am going to be running spacers on my stockers now but I would still be lacking the 18's. Plus, no one is running 18 look alike stockers yet.

[Avernier]

yeah, defninately have a machine shop do it, unless you have a mill and know how. i regret going to 18's, thats the only reason i would suggest widening stockers.

[LO 21]

why do you regret 18s?

[Johnnysks]

Slower acceleration, slower braking, less sidewall to absorb the bumps, more likely of bending a rim, and more fuel consumption. I have been waffling on this fence myself a few times as well.

18's for looks, 17's for everything else. Don't get me started on 19's or "TWENTIES" on first gen ...

[LO 21]

i had 19s before for looks, sold them cuz they were too heavy once i went boost and became more interested in performance. i think with the right wheel and right weight, you don't lose much performance with a bigger rim.

as for fuel consumption, mathematically actually, you travel more distance per revolution of the rim. so as long as the rim is light, a bigger rim will actually give you better fuel consumption, allowing you to travel X percentage farther expending the same effort from the car.

[Avernier]

i regret going to 18's because my car is slower. my wheels are lightweight for their size, at 19 and 21 lbs each, but it feels way slower. looks wise, they're awesome though. soon enough i'll buy some 17X9 track wheels and i'll be ok with the 18's for daily duty, but as it is, if you can only have one set of wheels, don't hinder performance to look good IMO.

[iversonaintnutin]

Originally Posted by LO 21

i had 19s before for looks, sold them cuz they were too heavy once i went boost and became more interested in performance. i think with the right wheel and right weight, you don't lose much performance with a bigger rim.

as for fuel consumption, mathematically actually, you travel more distance per revolution of the rim. so as long as the rim is light, a bigger rim will actually give you better fuel consumption, allowing you to travel X percentage farther expending the same effort from the car.

well said.

i like 19's on a 1st gen. definitely no to 20's! 19's are the max, specially volks!

[Johnnysks]

Originally Posted by LO 21

as for fuel consumption, mathematically actually, you travel more distance per revolution of the rim. so as long as the rim is light, a bigger rim will actually give you better fuel consumption, allowing you to travel X percentage farther expending the same effort from the car.

Originally Posted by iversonaintnutin

well said.

Sorry, that makes no sense whatsoever and only serves to misinform. Firstly, the circumference of the wheel is dependent on the tire, NOT the wheel. As an mathematical example, you can easily slap on some truck tires (e.g. 215/80/16) to travel more distance per revolution than 225/35/19. I never understood why people think larger rim = larger wheel without knowing the specs of the tires. Personal pet peeve of mine, heh.

Secondly, if you look at this from an physics energy argument, your argument if flawed. Think about it. At the same speed no matter how big your tire is the car has the same kinetic energy e=(1/2)mv^2(we're talking about energy based on the car's velocity). However, the wheel with the bigger (angular) moment in the physics sense is storing more energy than the wheel with the smaller moment. In reality every time you gas up you're converting more chemical energy into the angular rotation energy of bigger rim than you would with a smaller rim with a smaller polar moment, and converting that energy into heat when you brake, no matter what your circumference is. To experience how angular velocity change as angular moment change, sit in a chair that spins, get someone to spin you with your arms and legs sticking out, and then tuck your arms and legs in. See how your angular velocity increased with no energy input into the system but with a smaller angular moment? If you were to achieve the same angular velocity with your arms and legs sticking out, clearly you would need someone to spin you around some more (and deposit more energy into the system). That is where you loose your efficiency as with non hybirds there is no way to recover that energy and it is lost through heat. In that sense, you have to treat heavier rims or bigger rims as bigger energy sinks with no way to make a useful withdraw.

[Avernier]

^^^^this is fucking science. pure and simple un-deniable physics. moar posts like these please....

[LO 21]

Originally Posted by Johnnysks

In that sense, you have to treat heavier rims or bigger rims as bigger energy sinks with no way to make a useful withdraw.

i don't know why its such a pet peeve of yours. its not that far-fetched to assume that the guy will use a very similar profile tire whether he goes 18 or 19, thus making the 19" wheel have a bigger circumference (unless the guy would have used HUGE freaking tires on his 18s).

and your argument is correct about the bigger size, but it largely depends on weight as well, like you mentioned in your last sentence. yet still, this all started when a member a few posts up was concerned about fuel consumption with a bigger wheel. i'd bet that if we worked out the formulas, knowing exact wheel size, tire size, and wheel weight, a few miles per tank, give or take, should not be a deciding factor when choosing the wheels of your liking.

[ToMs2jz]

Back to the topic at hand, i say you get the wheels an 18' inch stocky is TITS lol.