2008 Lexus IS V8 - my.IS

akaOCLexus · 01-28-2006, 04:54 PM

I was just talking to my dad about my new IS getting here and he told me he heard a rumor at work that Lexus is supposed to release a 2 door IS with a V8 and around 390 hp sometime in 2008. He doesn't know if its manual or not, but he said they are not bringing back the Supra, and instead are making the V8 IS cause its going to be expensive and people will pay for the Lexus name rather than the Toyota name. He works at the North American Headquarters in Torrance and he is a Parts Research Analyst Supervisor for them. I will keep posting more once i hear more info

EDIT: Its supposed to be $60k +. And my dad did not hear it from a friend, he said he heard it at his monthly meeting from one of Lexus' Marketing Directors

TraumaMatrix · 01-28-2006, 05:01 PM

mmm IS460, modified LS460 engine for higher hp

ISZach · 01-28-2006, 05:05 PM

While it's a great idea I doubt it will happen, Lexus/Toyota seems to be going for more fuel efficient, lower displacement, high output motors, going to a big v8 seems a little ironic for Toyota at this stage in auto manufacturing.

Altezza4EVA · 01-28-2006, 05:05 PM

I personally can't picture Toyota doing that. First off, I would have a hard time paying 60K for an IS. If they changed the name, maybe. Also, remember, IS stands for International Sedan so making a coupe without a new name wouldn't make much sense.

Secondly, the Supra is a name that is legendary among cars and car companies. Remember, when the Supra first came out, it wasn't cheap either. It was a very unique car with a very unique price tag for a Toyota.

IMO, the Supra is coming and it's not going to have an L on it.....

TraumaMatrix · 01-28-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Altezza4EVA

I personally can't picture Toyota doing that. First off, I would have a hard time paying 60K for an IS. If they changed the name, maybe. Also, remember, IS stands for International Sedan so making a coupe without a new name wouldn't make much sense.

Secondly, the Supra is a name that is legendary among cars and car companies. Remember, when the Supra first came out, it wasn't cheap either. It was a very unique car with a very unique price tag for a Toyota.

IMO, the Supra is coming and it's not going to have an L on it.....

some people pay near 60k for a 3 series, called the M3, if the IS got the 460 motor it can compete with the new M

I suggest you watch Lexus's own IS video, the current generation stands for Intelligent Sport. Maybe the previous one stood for International Sedan but not the current which this thread is about

http://www.lexus.com/models/is/gallery_videos.html

jakb · 01-28-2006, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Altezza4EVA

I personally can't picture Toyota doing that. First off, I would have a hard time paying 60K for an IS. If they changed the name, maybe.
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Ok...but plenty of people pay 60k for a 3 series (M3), your point?

No one in the US is going to pay 60k for a Toyota. Look at the VW Phaeton. Terrific car by all means, but it flopped because it was a 70-100k VW!

Lexus needs to change the SC BADLY. CLK500, CLS500, SLK55, 650ci, S4 cabrio...all way more desirable and in most cases cheaper!

1SICKLEX · 01-28-2006, 05:39 PM

Your dads friend read Motor Trend......
The car mags have said a IS 500 is coming, but since we KNOW the new V-8 is a 4.6 liter, this makes pretty much no sense.

We do know a hardtop convert is coming.

A V-8 IS, not sure, I am sure the V-8 can fit but will they make one, I don't know.

Nor does your dads friend.

KraxyKanuck · 01-28-2006, 06:19 PM

I can see a hybrid IS400 or something, but yeah, not a big V8. It's all rumor at this point though.

hensta · 01-28-2006, 09:59 PM

"No one in the US is going to pay 60k for a Toyota. Look at the VW Phaeton. Terrific car by all means, but it flopped because it was a 70-100k VW!"

People already pay over 60k for a "Toyota" and it's called a Lexus LX 470 or SC 430. And saying that Lexus is a Toyota is like saying Lamborghini is just an Audi which is just a VW. Or Land Rover is just a Ford. Their design philosophies and mission are very different. Heck, wasn't BMW just an engine maker for Nazi war planes and motorcyles?

I'd pay 60k for a Lexus IS 500 and get my money's worth, top-end resale value, great reliability and free car washes every month or pay 65-70k for the next M3 and get my ego's worth.

Mercedes is great for style points or just to have a three-pointed star in the driveway. Audi is decent but their new design with the huge nose is a turnoff.

Altezza4EVA · 01-28-2006, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TraumaMatrix

some people pay near 60k for a 3 series, called the M3, if the IS got the 460 motor it can compete with the new M

I suggest you watch Lexus's own IS video, the current generation stands for Intelligent Sport. Maybe the previous one stood for International Sedan but not the current which this thread is about

http://www.lexus.com/models/is/gallery_videos.html

The S in any Lexus Model will always stand for SEDAN, except the S in SC which stands for sport.

Take a look at this thread-

The true IS and only IS

IS means Intelligent Sedan. As quoted from Magoo-

"IS stands for International Sedan (saloon) but Lexus uses the letters to convey an alternative meaning...intelligent sport.

All of the S's in the Lexus lineup stand for Sedan (saloon), except for the S in SC.

Please research and take a common sense approach."

An M is not considered a 3 series. M's are a totally separate model IMO. They are race-inspired, more research involved as well as being more "exclusive" than convential 3 series.

I'm sorry but I would have a hard time buying a 60K Lexus that is the supposed "M" competitor. BMW, Audi, and MB all have one thing in common, a SPECIFIC RACE DIVISION. This new business with Lexus won't cut it.

As for the Supra being a Lexus,

, it will always be a Toyota in my book not a luxury-oriented Lexus.

hensta- saying that Lambo is just a VW is a crazy statement. VW bought Lambo due to their financial issues. Toyota has owned Lexus since the beginning.

N1! · 01-28-2006, 10:32 PM

I don't see why folks are so closed minded to this idea. A fully loaded IS is already pushing $45-49K so a super sporty IS coupe is plausable. This whole arguement about people not paying $60K or more for a "toyota" Well, hell I guess by that same reasoning no one is going to be buying a $70-80K Skyline GT-R when they release it as an Infiniti, since it is "just a Nissan."

unlisted · 01-28-2006, 10:32 PM

the car to replace the Supra will be the "Super Coupe" will could feature a V10 engine. Lexus has had in developement for a while and they race a similiar car overseas, To compete in those races they have to make the car a production model withing 5 years. They are 3 years in. Will see it by 2008. Probably will be the 1st $100k Lexus.

Altezza4EVA · 01-28-2006, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by N1!

I don't see why folks are so closed minded to this idea. A fully loaded IS is already pushing $45-49K so a super sporty IS coupe is plausable. This whole arguement about people not paying $60K or more for a "toyota" Well, hell I guess by that same reasoning no one is going to be buying a $70-80K Skyline GT-R when they release it as an Infiniti, since it is "just a Nissan."

The Skyline is a race car that was made to emulate the car used in the Japanese circuit. Nissan has a HUGE racing background where Toyota doesn't. And, I didn't know the Skyline was going to be bedged Infiniti???

Ur right that the new IS pushes 50K, I personally find it over-priced and not worth it. So if a 100K "Lexus Supra" comes out, I will consider it over-priced.

Keep in mind, if it has an L badge on it, it will automatically go up in price where if it was a Toyota, it will be substantially cheaper.

Altezza4EVA · 01-28-2006, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by unlisted

the car to replace the Supra will be the "Super Coupe" will could feature a V10 engine. Lexus has had in developement for a while and they race a similiar car overseas, To compete in those races they have to make the car a production model withing 5 years. They are 3 years in. Will see it by 2008. Probably will be the 1st $100k Lexus.

This info is from.....?????

N1! · 01-28-2006, 11:09 PM

I find the current IS overpriced also. The fact that Xenon's are not standard and the fact that new GS and IS also lose the full size alloy spare is ridiculous IMO. Sure they have the Tire Pressure Monitor, however it only alerts you when there is tire pressure lose, you can't get actual tire pressure read outs like the 350Z's. Seems kind of suspect when a $27K 06 350Z comes with Xenon's and TPSM with psi read out for all four tires and the IS does not.

I think it is pure price gouging and people are too blinded by the Lexus name to realize that we are being taken advantage of. I think too many folks are blinded by the "L" and buy into it. It's too bad that the brand is changing this way. The new IS is an awesome car, but the pricing I think needs to adjust downward. If the rumors of a IS300 this fall are true and they keep the pricing similar to the current IS250, but throw in the 3.0 V6 from the GS300, then that may be the model that gives you the most bang for your buck. It would be so nice to see a 07 IS300 manual sell for about the same price of a stripped down IS250 manual of $31K. That, would be worth buying. Tint the windows: $150, install aftermarket Xenon's: $300 and you got all that you possibly need without all the extra fu fu crap no one really needs . . . Rear Sun Shade . . . maybe if I had kids or was grandpa. Shiet!