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Taken into account the rear seat slants back so much, you only lose about 10 inches of useable vertical space from the edge of the trunk lid to the back of the seat (top) - most of which is taken up by that damn hump - so I just used a slimline box (9" deep) and 2 tens which has done me very well. I built it from 3/4 MDF. I really didn't lose much trunk at all. Unfortunately my car is at Lexus so all I have is this old pic with l-brackets holding it down during testing.
I should make just a small mention that I was a car audio store owner for almost a decade and went through MECP training as well as Electronics Engineering so I really do love the hobby of car audio and IS300's. This proved to be the best solution because it protected my amps on the back seat, it allowed me to corner load the subs, it allowed me to keep my spare which I can still get to just fine, and it allowed me to run multiple subs.
That doesn't mean this is the best option for YOU. I simply weighed all the factors, many I just listed, and came out with a slimline box being the best choice IMO. Nobody uses the "hump" space in their trunk and that's exactly the area my slimline box takes up.
Looks like you've done a lot of work and I hope it sounds and works great for you! There's some that might use the space where the hump is, but in my experience most people just use the forefront of the trunk and the hump just stops their stuff from sliding into the seats. :D
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That's a nice setup you have there. Very clean. However, I'm curious as to how you "corner loaded" the subs, when your subwoofers aren't in a corner (at least from what the picture shows). Corner-loading has advantages in home audio because the close walls to the subwoofer add to the overall efficiency of the subwoofer system, but in a car's environment transfer function adds so much to the overall output / efficiency of the subwoofer system that overall placement has more to do with the how the system sounds rather than if a driver is corner loaded, because, well, there are no corners that add up to 3 dB in a car environment like there are in home audio.
The neat thing about what ItalynStylion is trying to do is that his solution will have roughly the same amount of surface area as two 10's, but it will only take up ~ 0.5 ft^3 and weigh close to 20 lbs for the entire system (box and woofer).
I don't discuss my setup or pro's and con's with vendors. I have 20 years invested in car audio and I know all the tricks. It's a lose/ lose situation that just ends up in a pissing contest of useless posts made to save face when a vendor has an investment in something and signs up to attempt to counterpoint something, usually by picking something out someone has said and attempts to discredit it with an arguable point that could go on forever which distracts and buries the original point. Then they say something positive about their setup in subtle positivity. Not that such a thing would happen here. I just don't allow it to start at all so I don't discuss with vendors incase that is their intentions.
Kept me in good standings with many with this rule for many years and it isn't changing anytime soon. So it isn't you, It's a long standing rule. I don't get into tech conversations with vendors, especially when they are releasing a product. Most of them don't give a damn about what you are saying, just waiting for you to say something they can counterpoint on and start positively comparing their product. Old trick. I was around when USD rolled out the grand national in the 80's and I've got a lot of stubborn 1st hand knowledge I'm good at arguing about so I just don't get started.
Hope this turns investment out well for you, good luck.
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Interesting approach/rule. I was / still am curious as to what you meant by corner loading. If you think such a discussion would distract greatly from the original thread, I'd be more than happy to hear about it via PM's on here.
I agree whole-heartedly with this though: "just waiting for you to say something they can counterpoint on and start positively comparing their product. Old trick." I hate it when people do that. I wasn't doing the latter, just curious is all.
So Saturday morning Matt and I did some testing on this thing at my house. I think the results were pretty darn good! The sub sounds very nice and the enclosure fits like a glove! Was it as loud as Matt's Kicker l7? Nope. Is that it's main purpose? Certainly not.
Basically, if you want to add some excellent bass and have never wanted anything more than 2x12's in your trunk this setup is great. You'll lose no space and it sounds great. The enclosure I built isn't flashy by any means but it doesn't need to be since it's hidden! Compliments to Matt for the pictures.
PS: Matt has a square hole cut in his trunk liner already. That's why that's there.
Looks very clean! What kind of airspace are you getting with displacement?
I was considering a single sub in the spare tire well in 2006 and with a couple cross braces I found I could stop most of the flex in the well and use it as the enclosure with a top fabricated on. I figured it would get me at least another half a foot of airspace v/s building an enclosure. Just depends on if you need it or not I suppose. I'd rather have the enclosure since it is so quick to drop in and out.
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Eibach Pro kit, Injen cai/bfi, Eclipse Nav & headrest screens
Looks very clean! What kind of airspace are you getting with displacement?
I was considering a single sub in the spare tire well in 2006 and with a couple cross braces I found I could stop most of the flex in the well and use it as the enclosure with a top fabricated on. I figured it would get me at least another half a foot of airspace v/s building an enclosure. Just depends on if you need it or not I suppose. I'd rather have the enclosure since it is so quick to drop in and out.
I thought about that as well. This box yields .3 cubes which is a bit on the small side but it still works well. I thought of making an assembly that would use the whole area as an enclosure but it would be tricky to say the least. I'm also pondering the use of a AP vent.
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i like that but you dont have a spare then do you?
Yes you do. That's the whole point of the enclosure. It allows you to retain the spare. Have you ever looked under the trunk carpet?
Aperiodic Membrane gone down in cost any in the last 10 years? Last I checked unless you were pulling a show car it wasn't worth the investment. Function wise, it's always worth the investment. We were using it 15 years ago in very high end installs, but it was out of reach of the average user.
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2002 CW/Black leather/heated
Eibach Pro kit, Injen cai/bfi, Eclipse Nav & headrest screens
Aperiodic Membrane gone down in cost any in the last 10 years? Last I checked unless you were pulling a show car it wasn't worth the investment. Function wise, it's always worth the investment. We were using it 15 years ago in very high end installs, but it was out of reach of the average user.
That's really the hardest part of making the decision to eliminate the spare tire is that with it gone there is SO MUCH ROOM under there. You could easily do a 15" sub with room to spare. Seal the top off and be done.
Around town it wouldn't bother me too much, on a trip I'd throw the tire in the trunk. :D
Now all this is of course based on the idea that you are going to be able to take advantage of a sealed single sub setup. (rock or alternative music enthusiast)
Personally I'd like to take a single ten and build a transmission line box that would fit the hump, but that's not going to happen. It's just too much weight to make all the maze in the box for a single ten.
I think for a drop and go solution this works great, just have to be willing to cut up a $40-70 floor mat. Depending on which junkyard you buy it from.
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There's some that might use the space where the hump is, but in my experience most people just use the forefront of the trunk and the hump just stops their stuff from sliding into the seats. :D
